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		<title>Comment on Indulging Yourself by Apocryphon</title>
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		<description>The Tao tells us that the wise hear of the tao and continue to practice in, the moderate intelligence hears of the Tao an tries his best to follow and some times falls short, the fool laughs at the Tao and does not practice it. 

It goes on to say, that if the fools did not laugh at the Tao, then the Tao would not be the Tao. 

I think a study of Evola&#039;s Revolt against the modern world and Men among ruins, With a grain of salt for his racialism, could help to understand the problem. A result of spiritual degeneration has made materialist decadence the ideal of the people. This is also the theme in Nietzsche&#039;s works with the it&#039;s crisis in modernism and his solution of the eternal re-occurrence, the transvaluation of values and the overman. The purpose of the A.&#039;.A.&#039;. can be considered the refining of the overmen out of the rabble. The O.T.O was meant to create a social frame work like that of Rabelais, from which the best A.&#039;.A.&#039;. candidates would be chosen. 

The problem is that the times are so degenerate, that post-modern relativism and &quot;progressivism&quot; have joined with industrialism to destroy all notions of values that are not money based. Now everyone is equal, and there is no desire to be self controlled, skilled, artistic, intellectual, unless you dedicate that to the degenerate purpose of making money. 

Progressivism counters the cyclical time (eternal return) with linear time line Creation to Eschaton. The notion of democracy puts quantity of people to replace quality, it is now more meaningful to have a bunch of degenerate friends than to make something of yourself. Nobility holds no power, only money and herd force. Then on top of that you have the post-modern notion that Nothing is true or that you &quot;Create your own reality&quot;, which leads to rampant hedonism and self delusion to deny science and sense as &quot;Just another religion&quot; and do deny all Religions as an outside force trying to shape how the individual creates his own reality. 

All of this is nonsense, and trying to twist Thelema to suit hedonism and democracy or stretch thelemic perspective to cover absolute subjective omnipotents, are abuses than result from a misunderstanding of the Comment, to mean Liber AL and Thelema means anything you want it to. 
This will take some work to fix. But if we at least understand the problems, we can work on restoring the Noble virtues and Spiritual foundation for the feudal stratification which O.T.O was designed to establish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tao tells us that the wise hear of the tao and continue to practice in, the moderate intelligence hears of the Tao an tries his best to follow and some times falls short, the fool laughs at the Tao and does not practice it. </p>
<p>It goes on to say, that if the fools did not laugh at the Tao, then the Tao would not be the Tao. </p>
<p>I think a study of Evola&#8217;s Revolt against the modern world and Men among ruins, With a grain of salt for his racialism, could help to understand the problem. A result of spiritual degeneration has made materialist decadence the ideal of the people. This is also the theme in Nietzsche&#8217;s works with the it&#8217;s crisis in modernism and his solution of the eternal re-occurrence, the transvaluation of values and the overman. The purpose of the A.&#8217;.A.&#8217;. can be considered the refining of the overmen out of the rabble. The O.T.O was meant to create a social frame work like that of Rabelais, from which the best A.&#8217;.A.&#8217;. candidates would be chosen. </p>
<p>The problem is that the times are so degenerate, that post-modern relativism and &#8220;progressivism&#8221; have joined with industrialism to destroy all notions of values that are not money based. Now everyone is equal, and there is no desire to be self controlled, skilled, artistic, intellectual, unless you dedicate that to the degenerate purpose of making money. </p>
<p>Progressivism counters the cyclical time (eternal return) with linear time line Creation to Eschaton. The notion of democracy puts quantity of people to replace quality, it is now more meaningful to have a bunch of degenerate friends than to make something of yourself. Nobility holds no power, only money and herd force. Then on top of that you have the post-modern notion that Nothing is true or that you &#8220;Create your own reality&#8221;, which leads to rampant hedonism and self delusion to deny science and sense as &#8220;Just another religion&#8221; and do deny all Religions as an outside force trying to shape how the individual creates his own reality. </p>
<p>All of this is nonsense, and trying to twist Thelema to suit hedonism and democracy or stretch thelemic perspective to cover absolute subjective omnipotents, are abuses than result from a misunderstanding of the Comment, to mean Liber AL and Thelema means anything you want it to.<br />
This will take some work to fix. But if we at least understand the problems, we can work on restoring the Noble virtues and Spiritual foundation for the feudal stratification which O.T.O was designed to establish.</p>
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